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Comment/feedback # 21
| Dr. Woo, I sincerely applaud your effort as this post caught my attention. There is a long way for us to fight against the racial discrimination in the academic career.
I agree with one post that we need to “develop our children to become more outgoing, outrageous, and outspoken to have a seat at the table and to make sure things are fair for everyone.” More importantly, we should set ourselves as role models for our children in our effort of fighting against the racial discrimination in our career path.
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Comment/feedback # 22
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| 100% agree with you that "WE SHOULD SET OURSELVES AS ROLE MODELS FOR OUR CHILDREN", especially in having the COURGE
of our own convictions. For commenting on #22 |
Comment/feedback # 19
| Dear Dr. Woo, RE: Hiramoto v. Goddard College I wrote to you previously (#15) about racist Asian stereotypes that the all-white evaluation committee wrote for my evaluation. I was a 50% FTE faculty member in the MFA-Interdisciplinary Arts Program at Goddard College in Vermont. I also want to write that I was overworked and testified that I was treated like a nanny, maid, slave and colonized person. The chair told me to write a summary of every book and artist I recommended to students, and admitted that she did not require this of other faculty or even of herself. Everyone else, including the chairs, wrote chatty, anecdotal responses to student reports. The chair alleged that three students complained about me. However, two of the students wrote written apologies. In the ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 20
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| My apologies for the poorly formatted data. The re-formatted version is here: Hiramoto: 19 solo shows; 259 group shows; 27 awards; 201 bibliography; other teaching - Univ. of CA. Berkeley, Univ. of CA. Santa Cruz, San Francisco Art Institute. Eaton: no solo shows; 50 group shows; no awards; 22 bibliography; other teaching - St. John Fisher College, Empire State College, State Univ. of NY. Hocking: no solo shows; 8 group shows; 3 awards (for citizenship); 2 bibliography; other teaching- Brown Univ., Rhode Island Sch. of Design, Harvard Univ. Lin: no solo shows; 37 group shows; 3 awards; 3 bibliography; other teaching - Evergreen College, Johnson & Wales College. This information above was not presented to the court. I recently charged all the lawyers in the case, includin ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 23
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| Dear Prof. Hiramoto:
YOU MADE MY DAY! You first posted anonymously (see comment 15). Now, on comment 19, you put your name ON THE FIRST LINE:
"RE:Hiramoto v. Goddard College". On comment 20, you stated, "Dr. Woo is right -- it's time we all put our names to our allegations and call out the perpetrators.". YES! This is the the way to rid ourselves of discrimination against us. Standing up for your rights doesn't always win the case for you. However, if anyone gives you trouble for posting your grievance, please let me know. 80-20 EF WILL BACK YOU UP, and perhaps pursue your case to the end. SB For commenting on #23 |
Comment/feedback # 18
| President S.B. Woo,
I would like to thank you for this valuable information and I will certainly continue to circulate this info to the rest of the API that do not have this info.
Thank You,
Tshalis.vaaj@gmail.com
Charlie Vang For commenting on #18 |
Comment/feedback # 15
| Dear Dr. Woo, I certainly wish the Harvard students well in their lawsuit, but as Louis points out, even with their Harvard degrees they will face discrimination in their future jobs. Personality factors are a subtle means of discrimination that are used by white academics and their minority supporters to dismiss Asian American faculty. I speak from experience as a former part-time faculty member in a distance-learning program in a progressive college. After receiving a positive evaluation from an all-white committee, the chair wrote of her intention to dismiss me. The faculty then wrote a second evaluation with Asian American stereotypes labeling me as quiet, lacking leadership, and teaching in a prescriptive manner although I have rave student evaluations. One peer evaluator wr ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 16
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| Dear Another Anonymous:
WHY ARE WE SO AFRAID? PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US COULD SENSE OUR FEAR, AND ARE THEREFORE ENCOURAGED TO STEP ON US. Here is my academic experience. I was an Asset. Prof. when I organized a Union (collective bargaining) at the U. of Delaware. After a campus-wide vote, I became the founding president of the Faculty Union, its chief spokesperson and chief negotiator. A few years later, I was appointed by DE's governor to be a Trustee of the same univ.. I receive some threats, none was carried out. Later I ran and became Lt. Governor of DE. Stand up for yourself, 80-20’ll help. SB
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Comment/feedback # 13
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Dr. Woo,
This is happening in every University. Many many Asian professors told me
the same thing over and over. I had personally experienced it.
Don't quote me on this.
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Comment/feedback # 14
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| Dear "Afraid": Please forgive me in that I just posted your email, although tI didn't reveal your name. I hope that you will forgive me
in saying to YOU that people like YOU have partially caused our problems. YOU DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE OF YOUR CONVICTION.
THAT IS WHY PEOPLE ARE ENCOURAGED TO STEP ON YOU, and AsAms like YOU! I've intentionally exposed myself in public in the hopes that that my fellow Asian Americans will get the message: S.B. doesn't seem to be in trouble although he has always DISPLAYED IN PUBLIC that he had the courage of his convection. I am not an exhibitionist nor a masochist. However, some fool needs to encourage our AsAms to speak their convictions, let it be me, if I have to do so. SB For commenting on #14 |
Comment/feedback # 12
| Dr. Woo
I will never join an organization, including universities, that don’t see me as a worthy partner, and I see them as a worthy partner. Life is too short to waste with superficial, unfair, dumb and hurtful people, and organizations. This is the advice I give my sons. You keep up the good fight.
Mike
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Comment/feedback # 11
| Hi Dr. Woo,
While I agree with Louis’ assessment that the 50% issue is a lot larger, I do not necessarily agree with his/her action plan. And please do not let it demise what you and 80-20 are doing in tackling the college admission issue. As a Chinese proverb states “All Thousand Mile Trips Start With a Tiny First Step.” We have to start somewhere. And that’s exactly what you and 80-20 have been doing, even though it might be a “tiny first step.” But this tiny first step is so important and is historical. You have my wholehearted appreciation and full support!
Thanks,
Yeqing For commenting on #11 |
Comment/feedback # 10
| In the early 21st century, I met a Chinese-American, who received his bachelor degree from a southern Taiwan Province university. After decades of struggle, he became a university president at a private university in California. He told me privately that as the head of that university, he had to work three times harder than his colleagues, in order to earn respect from other non-ethnic Chinese professors. In this connection, he said his son was born, raised, and educated in America, and he earned his Ph.D. degree in law from UC, Berkeley. Yes, his son still has to work three times harder than his colleagues, in order to be respected from the latter. Well, discrimination is still everywhere, and many, if not most, academics play petty politics. We all should make efforts to wipe the ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 8
| Dear SB,
Thanks for the newsletter. I totally agree with the faculty, Louis, who wrote the letter. The discrimination against Asian descends is on display every level along the way. Although my oldest daughter graduated in STEM from an Ivy League school of her choice, the racial challenge is still ahead of her; let alone my youngest daughter who is subject to the known biased college/graduate school admissions several years later than her sister. Someone mentioned that we are the new Jews. Perhaps it is true and we can learn from the Jews as well.
Regards,
Chih-Ching
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Comment/feedback # 7
| I salute those people like Dr. Woo who had the courage to speak about the truth. It is just un-American to discriminate Asian Americans on College Admimission. In fact, I think it is illegal. Judging people based on race, using "liability or personality" as an excuse is unacceptable. I am in the position of selecting students for the field I work in. I select students based on characters and merit, in stead of race concious policy. Although some of my colleagues accuse me of selecting too many Chinese students, I told them that they [students I picked] had the best overall perfomance in terms of interview, community service, GPA, reference letter, etc. To deliberatively not to select them is against my conscience. I had discussed this issue with my boss who is white, and she supports my de ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 9
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| You are a ROLE MODEL for the AsAm community. Seeing the large number of adult workers and professors sensing discrimination
in their workplaces, 80-20 EF will discuss this topic again next wee. Indeed I am studying the feasibility of allocating new resource giving all AsAm adult workers a helping hand to eliminate such discriminations against them. But it is not a promise, we need to study cost effectiveness and if that came out OK, I'll still need to get my Board's approval to start a new initiative. SB For commenting on #9 |
Comment/feedback # 6
| This is so true. I am holder of a fake chair in an ivy league universities . Racism and discrimination are so prevalent in most ivy league at all levels. I have a chair because of a benevolent department chair once but my salary etc is below the average salary of a university professor chair even though I am member of academies and winner of all top awards. For commenting on #6 |
Comment/feedback # 4
| It is all the same, professional consulting is no difference. The average White has better chance to getting the job than a superior immigrant Chinese in my field. Even Chinese afraid to use me because they afraid that my work may not be accepted; they know that because they are being discriminated. I have to find clients of average people instead of the higher up in the system. For commenting on #4 |
Comment/feedback # 3
| Thanks, Louis, for your thoughts. This is very important to hear, even if we may have known it on some level already and even if it has been stated before in different ways. I am a retiring tenured faculty at a 2nd tier elite college. I feel I have been treated well by the college, but I can attest to the reality of what you say from my experience as a faculty member and the experience of Asian-American and Asian students that I have heard from. There is a growing Asian American generation of articulate, charismatic individuals (with great personalities) that are much more aware of the political and social reality today, preparing to make a difference, and looking for support and guidance negotiating the kinds of issues you are outlining. For commenting on #3 |
Comment/feedback # 2
| I think Louis spoke out the truth most of us knew. Ask every office of Diversity, Access, and Equal Opportunity, the discrimination in the hiring process is more severe than any undergraduate admission.
The reason college admission is the target right now is only that it's so blatant in your face. There are hard measures to compare, and there is a large number of statistical samples to analyze. The discrimination is undeniable.
As Professor Louis said, the college administrations are highly educated and sophisticated. They will never use a racial slur and they are cautious about even "micro-aggression".
Generally, that change of heart will take efforts for generations, but I am optimistic about it.
We just need to do it one step a time.
Jerry For commenting on #2 |
Comment/feedback # 1
| Thank you Louis for sharing your experience. It seems like we need to develop our children to become more outgoing, outrageous, and outspoken to have a seat at the table and to make sure things are fair for everyone. For commenting on #1 |
Comment/feedback # 17
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| 100% agreed. Thanks. SB :-) :-) :-) For commenting on #17 |
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