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3.2.7: Subjective judgement is needed, and effort to test and remediate could be quite variable #1877
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I hadn't considered that scenario before, but I think that would count as: I'll raise with the COGA folks who lead the SC development. |
Thank you @benja11y for the thoughtful feedback. Where is the quoted bit @alastc it certain has face validity that text instructions about mouseover or tabbing would count as |
coga feels that it need clear how to reveal hidden controls. |
AGWG response: @benja11y a number of changes have been made to the Understanding document since your issue was opened 5 months ago. For example, the passage you cite has now been modified to read:
We believe such changes address some of your concerns with misinterpretation. Your second question asked if text instructions could be used to meet this requirement:
You were concerned that text instructions would not meet the "equivalent component" wording of the first bullet. However, as @alastc points out, the preamble of the requirement itself allows text instructions to be sufficient:
@lseeman pointed out in a response that the identifying information should be clear. Obviously there is a degree of interpretation here, both in what is "needed to identify" and what is "clear". Authors concerned with differences of interpretation can seek to ensure hover or focus are never the triggers for making components visible, or that a mechanism exists to make the components persistently visible. |
The response above was accepted, and there is a separate PR that has updated the SC text. |
The Understanding document says:
We take this to mean that a page containing video thumbnails that can be hovered/focused to reveal a play button would still pass this SC—unless completing a process required it, in which case they would fail.
This means that subjective judgement is needed on whether persistently visible controls are required, based on what the user may be trying to accomplish, based on quite a subtle distinction. This could be prone to misinterpretation and/or variable results, as well as quite different outcomes in both design, as well as time required to remediate, for fairly similar UIs.
The SC has an exception for equivalent components, as seen below.
If a piece of text was added onto the page, stating that "video controls are revealed on mouse over and keyboard focus", should this pass the SC?
With the current wording requiring an "equivalent component", we do not think it currently passes, but suggest that the SC could be given a labels or instructions exception.
This issue has been raised on behalf of TPGi, based on an internal consultation process. An article containing all of our comments can be found on our blog, along with an introduction and acknowledgments.
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