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Clarification sought on "set of web pages" #2298
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@fstrr the collections of products being a set of pages is something that I'm unclear on. If the product pages are different from other product pages but created by the same group (marketing) and have the same purpose to "sell products" are all products really a set or just pages for a particular product or suite a set of pages? |
There has always been a somewhat self-fulfilling quality to the definitions of Set of Pages, where basically some pages that share a whole bunch of the same features of navigation, etc., become a Set of Pages as a result of sharing those features.
Essentially, a Set of Pages comes into existence by sharing the qualities on which we judge them. So for any of the scenarios folks have previously listed in comments of this issue (or for that matter for any page within those scenarios) Set of Pages may cease to be appropriate when the shared qualities aren't shared anymore. This is especially the case as other SCs that rely on Set of Pages add-on more qualifiers for what constitutes the set. So, for Consistent Help, a subset of the set of pages is identified that share the same help qualities.
In other words, the Set of Pages takes on its context and 'requirements' based on the SCs in which it is evoked. And the set of pages is not consistent across the five SCs that invoke it, even within the same application, IMO. |
@mraccess77 Thinking about this some more, I would say that a user would most likely expect that buying something from a site should have a consistent set of navigation across all product pages. It reminds me of working on information architecture for intranets: many intranets grow organically and mirror the structure of the business, which isn't helpful for task completion. For example: as an employee, I don't care which deeply-nested team deals with refunding expense reports, I just want to deal with a refund on my expense report without knowing the org chart for the finance department. Similarly, I don't care if your website has separate divisions for Windows, Mac, and Linux software, it's all just software and I want to find the help information. |
I agree it would be helpful to have all product pages across products have consistent ways to find help - but I'm not sure that's required under the definition. It seems like the person making the conformance claim should really define what is within a set of web pages it seems the choices are
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I agree that it is not explicitly required under the definition. For example, one could have a single site renting movies and selling home goods. The branding and integration between those experiences are probably superficial.
Agreed and I think that is okay, as it is also going to be the case that any audit would need to define what in scope (including within a set of web pages), |
The definition of a set of web pages indicates a collection of web pages with a common purpose and that are created by the author, group, or organization https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#dfn-set-of-web-pages - it would be helpful to have more examples beyond the publication example give.
For example - within a financial institution - are the web pages related to auto loans considered as part of the same set as pages on home loans?
With use of this term in the Findable Help SC it means we need to have more consistency in how we collectively agree it should be understood.
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